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| Sorry for being so cryptic ..... It's a trait I'm not fond of either I told a few people awhile back that I had a personal pool going around here on who would go first. A. My sister's yellow cat B. My 83 year-old father ... who has emphysema, heart disease C. My sister, who is a professional mess D. Me, who's reaping the fruits of a miss-spent youth The yellow cat won. I however, seem to be coming in a close second. Here's the Wikipedia Page that spells out the picture right now. The fetor hepaticus mentioned there doesn't thrill me at all, but I haven't kissed a pretty woman in awhile, so I guess it doesn't really matter that much. I have a lot of loose ends to take care of, and I need to use this energy and time to do some tying up. I would love it, if someone who has the time and energy, would step up and take on one of my sites. That being TYKO Drop me an email, if you feel up to it. Thank-you all for the very kind words. An "ATTA BOY" or "ATTA GIRL" to each and everyone of you. It means more than words can say. |
posted by COLORADO BOB at 12/09/2006 02:36:00 PM
Stumble It!
C-Bob -- email me...I'm having some serious health shit going on too, and it -- as they say -- sucks the big green weenie! Patsi
Balecox@aol.com
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/09/2006 03:14:00 PM
C-Bob,
I am truly sorry to hear of your difficulities. I don't know how serious your liver disease is, it sounds pretty serious, but here is a link to a site that has a liver cleansing routine. I have never tried it but there are people that swear by it.
Liver cleanse
This liver cleanse procedure has been in the public domain for many generations. It effectively and painlessly removes all stones, gravel, crystals and debris that hinder healing and the ability to detoxify pollutants from the gallbladder and the liver and cleanses the liver bile ducts.
Purpose:
Cleansing the liver of gall stones dramatically improves digestion which is the basis of your whole health. You can expect many or all of your allergies to disappear, too, more and more with each subsequent cleanse. Each liver cleanse "cures" a different set of allergies, suggesting that the liver is compartmentalized - different parts having different duties. It follows that by getting all the stones out, all allergies will disappear! Well - incredibly, a liver cleanse has eliminated shoulder, upper arm and upper back pain.
Introduction:
One of the top jobs of the liver to make bile, 1 to 1 1/2 quarts in a day! The liver is full of tubes (biliary tubules) that deliver the bile to one large tube, the common bile duct. The gall bladder is attached to the common bile duct and acts as a storage reservoir. Eating fat or protein triggers the gall bladder to squeeze itself empty after about twenty minutes (or after ingesting the liver cleanse solution) and the stored bile finishes its trip down the common bile duct to the small intestine and eventually to the colon (large intestine). Of course the gall bladder does not hold enough bile to neutralize all of the liver cleanse solution you have ingested and the empty gallbladder signals its master, the liver, to dump all available bile forcefully into the common bile duct as well and in this fashion the liver turns itself practically inside out and empties all of its available bile together with stones, gravel and crystals to condition that potent liver cleanse solution. The Epsom salt serves to relax the tubules so that the passage of larger stones is painless and smooth.
For many persons, including children, the biliary ducts (tubing) are choked with gallstones. Some develop allergies or hives but some have no symptoms at all. When the gall bladder is scanned or X-rayed, nothing is seen. Typically, the worst stones are not in the gallbladder but in the liver. Not only that, most are too small and not calcified, a pre-requisite for visibility on X-ray. There are over half a dozen variety of gallstones, most of which have cholesterol crystals in them. They can be black, red, white, green or tan colored. The green ones get their color from being coated with bile. Notice in the picture (of Dr. Hulda Clark's books) how many have imbedded unidentified objects. Are they fluke remains? Notice how many are shaped like corks with longitudinal grooves below the tops. We can visualize the blocked bile ducts from such shapes. Other stones are composites - made from smaller ones - showing that they regrouped in the bile duct some time after the last cleanse.
At the very center of each stone scientists found a clump of bacteria, suggesting a dead bit of parasite might have started the stone forming. Maybe it is the liver's method to encapsulate parasite adults to avoid getting destroyed by such an invader. That's fine for one or two, but how about thousands of such encapsulations?
Eventually the fine self-defense turns into an immense blockage that keeps the liver from detoxifying and eliminating harmful substances such as solvents and parasites. You see, as the stones grow and become more numerous, the back pressure on the liver causes it to make less bile which is of course the transportation medium for the undesirable substances. Imagine the situation if your garden hose had marbles in it. Much less water would flow, which in turn would decrease the ability of the hose to squirt out the marbles. With gallstones and liver stones, much less excess cholesterol leaves the body and cholesterol levels may rise.
Also, gall/liver stones, being porous, can pick up bacteria, cysts, viruses and parasite stages that are passing through the liver. In this way, "nests" of infection are formed, forever supplying the body with fresh irritating bacteria. No stomach infection such as ulcers or intestinal bloating can be cured permanently without removing these stones from the gallbladder and liver.
Preparation:
Cleansing the liver bile ducts is the most powerful procedure you can undertake in order to improve your body's health. A liver cleanse should be done twice a year if possible. Ideally, it should be part of a semi-annual liver/parasite cleanse the sequence of which enhances the overall results.
Phase I (optional): Though some are not sensitive to amalgam fillings, those that are may do any dental work first, if possible. Your mouth should be metal free and bacteria free and all cavitations should have been cleaned. A toxic mouth can put a heavy load on the liver, burdening it immediately after cleansing. Eliminate any tooth problem first for best results. If this is not possible then go to the liver cleanse anyway.
Phase II (also optional): Completing a parasite cleanse before cleansing the liver is also highly recommended but not mandatory. You want your kidneys, bladder and urinary tract in top condition so they can efficiently remove any substances incidentally absorbed from the intestines as the bile is being secreted.
Parasite. Dr. Hulda Clark maintains that you can't clean a liver with living parasites in it and that you won't get as many stones out, and you may feel quite sick. While this is Dr. Clarkâs recommendation, it is to me an " ideal" situation. We have seen many copious stone discharges without the parasite cleanse prior to the liver cleanse.
Phase III (mandatory):
Drink fresh, organic un-pasteurized apple juice for three days preceding the liver cleanse. For these three days, eat frugally (little) if you must and then only small amounts of raw unprocessed fruit and/or vegetable salads, but every day take at least one full quart of high quality unfiltered (you should be able to see the sediments on the bottom of the container) preferable home-made apple juice. The pectin in the apple juice helps to soften and flatten the stones in the gall bladder and liver. This will also help their passage through the bile ducts. This semi-fast also empties the intestines of their food content and makes the collection of stones less problematic. Use a good juicer and make up 20-30 pounds of apples into juice and refrigerate.
If sugar form the juice in relationship to candida is a problem I believe that doing this cleanse is senior to candida worries - for three to four days - as it helps rid the body of parasites. Candida is a parasite as well. Diabetes or severe reactions from this cleanse need special guidance from a professional nutritionist.
Liver cleanse ingredients:
Epsom salts 4 table spoons (not less !!!)
Olive oil 3/4 of a cup (light olive oil is easier to get down, use only the best cold pressed virgin oil)
Fresh grapefruit and lemons. Do not use concentrate or store-bought juice. Make your own. Enough to squeeze 1/4 cup of lemon and 1/2 cup of grapefruit juice.
Ornithine (optional)4 to 8, to be sure you can sleep. Suitable jar with non-metallic lid. Shake your mixture well and gulp it down 1/2 cup of lemon/grapefruit juice Use a couple of ounces of this juice each time to help get down the
Epsom salt solution (four feedings) if desired
Phase V - (Procedure):
Choose a day like Saturday for the cleanse so that you can rest the next day.
Take no medicines, vitamins or other pills that you can do without. They could hinder success of the cleanse. Stop any parasite or kidney cleanse the day before.
Eat a no-fat fruit breakfast and light fat-free lunch such as cooked cereals with fruit but no butter or milk. This allows the bile to build up and develop pressure in the liver. Higher pressure pushes out more stones.
2:00 PM. Do not eat or drink after 2:00 o'clock. If you break this rule you could feel quite ill later. Get your Epsom salts ready. Mix 4 tablespoons in 3 cups of water and pour this into a jar. This makes four servings, 3/4 cup each. Place the jar in the refrigerator to get ice cold (this is for convenience and taste only). If you are familiar with the procedure, take an enema before 4:00 PM with distilled (not chlorinated) warm water to clean out your large intestines of any unwanted fecal matter. The cleaner your intestines are the easier it will be for the stones to be eliminated. Besides, if you want to see just what you will be eliminating it is more appetizing to look only for stones and not be turned off by other smelly stuff.
6:00 PM. Drink one serving (3/4 cup) of the ice cold Epsom salts water. If you did not prepare this potion ahead of time (at 2:00 PM), mix 1 tablespoon in 3/4 cup of water now. You may add 1/8 teaspoon of vitamin C powder to improve the taste. If you have no vitamin C powder then add a little citrus juice to improve the taste; but this is entirely optional. You can certainly drink a few mouthfuls of water afterwards or rinse your mouth.
Get the olive oil and grapefruit out to warm up.
8:00 PM. Repeat the above by drinking another 3/4 cup of Epsom salts water. You have not eaten since two o'clock, but you won't feel hungry. Get your bedtime chores done now.
Switch your telephone to your answering machine and be prepared to stay by yourself for the balance of the evening. The timing of the actual cleanse is critical to achieve success. Do not be more than 10 minutes early or late for anything that follows next.
9:45 PM. Pour 3/4 cup (measured cup) of your high quality olive oil into the pint jar. Pour the prepared 3/4 cup of squeezed grapefruit and lemon juice into the measuring cup adding this to the oil. Close the jar tightly with its lid and shake briskly until well mixed, almost watery. Only fresh squeezed juice will do this.
Now visit the bathroom one or more times, even if this makes you slightly late for your ten o'clock drink. Be ready to go to bed and STAY in bed. Don't clean up the kitchen. Do it the next day.
10:00 PM. Take the solution to your bedside if you want but drink it standing up. Drink the potion you have mixed. If you have them, take four Ornithine capsules with the first sips to make sure you will sleep through the night. Take eight if you already suffer from insomnia. Drinking through a large plastic straw might help it go down easier. Get all of it down within five minutes or less (less than fifteen minutes for very elderly or weak persons).
Lie down immediately. The sooner you lie down, otherwise gravity can invite too fast a transition of the Epsom salts liquids, the more stones you will get out. Put your knees up to your chest in a fetal position. Lie on your right side for at least half an hour. The oil will go to your gallbladder and liver. These organs will not know what to do with all that oil, so they will spasm and throw off all the available bile plus stones, gravel and crystals.
After half an hour you may turn on your back with a good thick feather pillow. Try to think about what is happening in the liver. Think loving thoughts - your liver is sensitive and responsive to feelings of resentment, vindictiveness and hate. Try to keep perfectly still for about half an hour or at least 20 minutes. Visualize the cleansing action taking place. You may feel a train of stones traveling along the bile ducts like marbles. There is little likelihood of pain because the bile duct valves are open (thanks to the Epsom salts). Relax and go to sleep. Let nature do her thing. Tomorrow you will be cleaner, much cleaner and also healthier than before.
Next morning (early): Upon wakening, take your third dose of Epsom salts. If you have indigestion or nausea (highly unlikely), wait until this is gone before drinking the Epsom salts. Don't take this potion before 6:00 AM. It would be best if you don't get up and have someone else give you this potion. This drink will act as a mild laxative and provoke a later bowel movement.
2 hours later. Take you fourth (the last one - Yupee!) dose of Epsom salts. Drink 3/4 cup of the mixture. You may go back to bed if you like.
After 2 more hours you may get up and take something into your empty stomach. Start with some fresh-made fruit juice. Half an hour later, eat some fruit. One hour later you may eat regular food but keep it light and natural. By supper of the next day (Monday) you should feel fully recovered and ready to slay a dragon.
How well did you do? Expect diarrhea in the morning of the second day (Sunday). The ideal way to see what you are actually eliminating is to defecate into a white porcelain bowl or large white plastic bucket. The bowl or bucket is used to also see the reddish crystals which collect at the bottom of the bowl (the stones float on top) and those crystals would ordinarily be lost somewhere at the bottomless hole in the toilet and you would have missed them. The alternative is to use the toilet and look into it for the stones with a flashlight. Look for the greenish kind since this is proof that they are genuine gallstones and not food residue. Only bile from the liver is green. The bowel movement (if there is any) sinks but gall and liver stones float because of the cholesterol inside. Count them roughly, whether tan or green. You may have to eliminate up to 2000 stones before the liver is clean enough to rid you of allergies or bursitis or upper back pain permanently. The first cleanse may rid you of them for a few days but as the stones from the rear of the liver travel forward they might give you the same symptoms again. You may repeat this gallbladder/liver cleanse at two-week intervals until no more stones come out. Never cleanse when you are ill.
Sometimes, the bile ducts are full of cholesterol crystals that did not form into round stones. They appear as a "chaff" floating on top of the toilet bowl water. It may be tan colored, harboring millions of tiny white crystals. Cleansing this chaff is just as important as purging stones. We don't know what is the identity of the reddish heavy small crystals that collect at the bottom of the bowl.
How safe is the liver cleanse? It is very safe. Dr. Clark's opinion is based on over 500 cases, including many persons in their seventies and eighties. None went to the hospital; none even reported pain. However, it can make you feel quite ill for a one or two days afterwards, although in every one of these cases the maintenance parasite program had been neglected. This is why the instructions direct you to ideally complete the parasite and kidney rinse programs first.
Conclusion:
The above procedure contradicts many modern medical viewpoints. Gallstones are thought to be few, not thousands. They don't get linked to pains other than gall bladder attacks. It is easy to understand why this is thought: By the time you have acute pain attacks, some stones are in the gallbladder, are big enough and sufficiently calcified to be seen on X-ray, and they have caused inflammation there.
When the gall bladder is removed, the acute pain attack is gone but bursitis and other pains and digestive problems remain and get worse. Stones are not thought to reside in the liver. If the liver is operated upon only the biggest and worst offenders can be removed - yet uncountable stones and gravel and crystals remain in the already clogged liver which has not improved at all.
People who have their gallbladder surgically removed still eliminate plenty of green, bile-coated stones with our liver cleanse and anyone who cares to dissect their stones can see that the concentric circles and crystals of cholesterol match textbook pictures of "gallstones" exactly.
Note:
If you feel waves of pain reaching up to your throat, you probably have a gallstone stuck in a bile duct (clay-colored stool is evidence of bile duct blockage). Epsom salts can relax that bile duct in 20 minutes. Take a tablespoon in 3/4 cup of water but only on an empty stomach or you may feel quite ill. Taking a large dose of valerian herb (6 to 8 capsules four times a day including bedtime) may also buy you a little time by relaxing the duct. If you do get relief, you can be sure it was a spasm of the bile duct system. The magnesium in the Epsom salts relaxes spasms. It would be best to clean the liver a number of times (at two week intervals unless too ill) to try to dislodge the sticking gallstone. Usually it is recommended to kill parasites and cleanse the kidneys first.
A quick word about parasites. Infested humans, pets coupled with international travel, help spread parasites. They are much more predominant then in early non airplane days. For parasites try both oxycleanse & Paragone. Get Paragone direct or from your local health food store.
To obtain permanent liver health, one should control the intake of high fat foods such as ice cream, potato chips, salad dressings, cheese, butter (excess), cream and exorbitant amounts of milk (more than 1 glass a day, if any). Feelings of resentment, vindictiveness, belligerence and hate are destructive to liver health. Avoid these at all cost!!! Forget the 'bad' others have done to you and forget the 'good' you have done to others. Learn to forgive!
Click here (pdf) for another way to help your liver and colon stay healthy.
A great program to work on the breath at the same time would be www.breathing.com/250.htm
Posted by
Bowman C |
12/09/2006 04:06:00 PM
CBob,
Thank you for not just dropping out. If you need anything if only a sympathetic ear, just write me. In the meantime, stay with us when you can.
Any chance of a transplant?
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/09/2006 04:53:00 PM
colorado bob, thank you for checking in. Is dialysis being suggested? Could it help? I skimmed BowmanC's info and I think it's certainly worth a try if you're up to it. It would probably help to have someone there with you if and when you try the cleanse. Your life's joy and travails have certainly suggested that you are a risk-taker, and maybe it's time for this one, which BowmanC says seems relatively safe, even if not pleasant. Please please don't become too depressed, throw off the negative energy. Please be with us when you can. Fight the good fight. Here's your ATTA BOY!
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/09/2006 05:27:00 PM
oops, e-mail me if you feel like it: transcendingstatusquo@yahoo.com
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/09/2006 05:28:00 PM
That's awful. I wish you the best.
Posted by
Edward Copeland |
12/09/2006 06:25:00 PM
c-bob, I know a guy who has a rough case of Hepititus C and swears by Milk Thistle. " Milk Thistle is an indigenous American herb that provides nourishment to the liver, and can help: Nutritionally support your body's natural detoxification process." http://www.healthestores.com/milkthistle.html
In the mean time, remember how good what you did was. Look, I've been sober for 104 years, and it hasn't been any fun. You had fun. Don't berate yourself for your past. Embrace your younger daze.
tt
Posted by
tiptoe |
12/10/2006 12:34:00 AM
Hey C'Bob, an'ATTA BOY' right back at ya for coming back and letting us know how you are doing.
I can only hope that your situation gets better or at least not worse. My fingers and toes are crossed for you.
Clairexxx
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/10/2006 01:10:00 PM
cbob,
Atta man.
Posted by
Anonymous |
12/10/2006 01:33:00 PM
What Clairexxx said.
Thanks for giving us info. It makes it so much easier to understand.
Do what ya can to feel better.
tt
Posted by
tiptoe |
12/10/2006 07:30:00 PM
Bob,
I emailed you Re:TYKO.
Posted by
ToledoNative |
12/10/2006 09:13:00 PM
Hey CBob, hang in there. If anyone has brain rot its me. Just look at my moniker....anon-paranoid and one knows right away my brain has rotted.
I'll keep you in my prayers buddy, just hang tight and maybe everything will work out alright.
God Bless
Posted by
Anon-Paranoid |
12/10/2006 09:55:00 PM
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